[routemaster]

Blimey it's true, Skippy Vinyls has been at it again.

[Greasy Roads]

There is a promo, but it's not of this record.

[Country Bloke]

There is a promo, but it's not of this record.

Correct. The 12" promo in question is for the album IAKO, not the single. The FOF discography lists it with Jerusalem, but it is wrong.

[Greasy Roads]

The double A sided promo of Big New Prinz/Wrong Place Right Time. I'm inclined to Country Bloke's theory that it's a promo for the album rather than the Jerusalem single. There's a couple of reasons for this: Beggars weren't given to issuing promos for singles, they were usually white labels if anything; there's also a 7" version of this which I don't have, that has different matrix numbers from the Jerusalem box 7" - I can't see them making up different stampers when they could just slap a promo label on that version. Still you never know with records, weird things happen. Whatever happened it sounds absolutely fucking great, it just jumps out of the grooves.

[Slushy]

it just jumps out of the grooves.

It sounds like you have a cheap stylus that's probably worn. In my experience this can be rectified by placing a coin on top of the arm, thus weighing down the needle which stops it from jumping. Or better still simply listen to the tracks via an i-Pod.

[Amber]

Are you doing Deadbeat Descendant soon Greasy Roads? I know routemaster's reviews are better but I do like DD.

[Greasy Roads]

Are you doing Deadbeat Descendant soon Greasy Roads? I know routemaster's reviews are better but I do like DD.

I've been busy this week Amber but it will be soon.

[Amber]

Are you doing Deadbeat Descendant soon Greasy Roads? I know routemaster's reviews are better but I do like DD.

I've been busy this week Amber but it will be soon.

I understand Greasy Roads, though routemaster does manage to fit his reviews around a hectic work schedule.

[routemaster]

Are you doing Deadbeat Descendant soon Greasy Roads? I know routemaster's reviews are better but I do like DD.

I've been busy this week Amber but it will be soon.

I understand Greasy Roads, though routemaster does manage to fit his reviews around a hectic work schedule.

He's a bone idle cunt Amber, some of us have a bit of pride in our reviews and post them regularly whatever the situation.

[Amber]

Greasy Roads, if you post about Deadbeat Descendant tomorrow, I shall keep quiet about who the father of my baby is.

I do understand you've been busy...

[Greasy Roads]

Greasy Roads, if you post about Deadbeat Descendant tomorrow, I shall keep quiet about who the father of my baby is.

I do understand you've been busy...

Hi Amber, I'm afraid what with visiting Villa Park this afternoon and seeing Imperial Wax tonight there won't be any Fall On 45 today. I hope your baby's father is doing the decent thing. I've heard he's quite close to home.

[Amber]

Greasy Roads, if you post about Deadbeat Descendant tomorrow, I shall keep quiet about who the father of my baby is.

I do understand you've been busy...

Hi Amber, I'm afraid what with visiting Villa Park this afternoon and seeing Imperial Wax tonight there won't be any Fall On 45 today. I hope your baby's father is doing the decent thing. I've heard he's quite close to home.

Well I'm glad you're not the father as you're obviously the sort of bloke who wouldn't give a damn about his expectant g/f and would rather fuck off to watch the football and some shitty band.

[Greasy Roads]

....you're obviously the sort of bloke who wouldn't give a damn about his expectant g/f and would rather fuck off to watch the football and some shitty band.

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

[Amber]

....you're obviously the sort of bloke who wouldn't give a damn about his expectant g/f and would rather fuck off to watch the football and some shitty band.

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

You sexist pig Greasy Roads, I liked you and thought better of you but you're just like all the rest.

[Greasy Roads]

Well here you go Amber. Cab It Up was indeed the next outing from the gruppe. Cab It Up's ok, but Dead Beat Descendant really should have been the A side as it has perfect credentials for a single: at two and a half minutes it's the perfect length and it's got a great riff; it did appear on the album but that seems to have gone by the board by now. Ian Broudie is again at the controls for Cab It Up with MES and Shan Hira sharing the honours on Dead Beat Descendant. The 12" is filled up with fairly forgettable live versions of Kurious Orang and Hit The North. It's the end of the first Brix era on 45.

[the3points]

Well here you go Amber. Cab It Up was indeed the next outing from the gruppe. Cab It Up's ok, but Dead Beat Descendant really should have been the A side as it has perfect credentials for a single: at two and a half minutes it's the perfect length and it's got a great riff; it did appear on the album but that seems to have gone by the board by now. Ian Broudie is again at the controls for Cab It Up with MES and Shan Hira sharing the honours on Dead Beat Descendant. The 12" is filled up with fairly forgettable live versions of Kurious Orang and Hit The North. It's the end of the first Brix era on 45.

On that 12" Deadbeat Descendant is on the A Side.

[Greasy Roads]

Well here you go Amber. Cab It Up was indeed the next outing from the gruppe. Cab It Up's ok, but Dead Beat Descendant really should have been the A side as it has perfect credentials for a single: at two and a half minutes it's the perfect length and it's got a great riff; it did appear on the album but that seems to have gone by the board by now. Ian Broudie is again at the controls for Cab It Up with MES and Shan Hira sharing the honours on Dead Beat Descendant. The 12" is filled up with fairly forgettable live versions of Kurious Orang and Hit The North. It's the end of the first Brix era on 45.

On that 12" Deadbeat Descendant is on the A Side.

Yes you're quite right, in fact I always thought it was a double A side. It was only when I looked at the 7" release on Discogs that I realised it wasn't. Interestingly though despite the labels on the 7" having A Side and B Side the matrices have A and AA which is usual for Beggars double A sides of the time, so maybe that was intended at some point.

[dannynomates]

Kurious Orang

Kurious Oranj.

The two live tracks are straight off the Seminal Live album (CD not vinyl) while Cab It Up is horribly faded out early and misses the manic closing section found on IAKO. So it's basically a rip off, only DBD being unique. You should have mentioned these vital points in your review.

Dan

[Greasy Roads]

Kurious Orang

Kurious Oranj.

The two live tracks are straight off the Seminal Live album (CD not vinyl) while Cab It Up is horribly faded out early and misses the manic closing section found on IAKO. So it's basically a rip off, only DBD being unique. You should have mentioned these vital points in your review.

Dan

Isn't that the point of a forum? You post something and it gets discussed.

[dannynomates]

Kurious Orang

Kurious Oranj.

The two live tracks are straight off the Seminal Live album (CD not vinyl) while Cab It Up is horribly faded out early and misses the manic closing section found on IAKO. So it's basically a rip off, only DBD being unique. You should have mentioned these vital points in your review.

Dan

Isn't that the point of a forum? You post something and it gets discussed.

No, the point of my forum is you post something and I correct it, or warn you.

Dan